, right? where else would it go? >> university of hawaii has been openly campaigning for it for years. >> bill: oh, really? i hadn't thought about that. kenya? no. >> don't think that will happen. >> bill: but he taught at the university of chicago. >> there is a lot of family connections there. >> bill: he did not attend the university of hawaii. his father did right? >> and his mother. there's ties. he lived there. you don't have to be -- most presidential libraries are affiliated with an academic institution. now, having said that, for years, the university of chicago has had a very quiet under the radar -- putting out feelers to get this. ask him about it. they get all muzzled. so this is breaking out in the open. i want to give credit. politico had a story on this saturday where they talked about how one of the people involved is susan who was mrs. obama's chief of staff. now an executive at the university of chicago. but what this -- there are so many ties to the university of chicago.